FIRST TIME EVER OFFERED FOR SALE HERE ON EBAY IS THIS UNRESTORED 1967 CHEVROLET CAMARO L30-M20? SS? SAME OWNER MANY YEARS, I BELIEVE THIS TO BE A L30-M20 1967 CAMARO WITH THE "4P" DESIGNATION ON THE COWL TAG (SEE PIC) WHICH WOULD HAVE COME FROM THE FACTORY WITH A 327CI/275HP ENGINE, SAGINAW 4 SPEED TRANSMISSION AND A 12 BOLT REAREND WITH THE FACTORY TRACTION BAR, IF NOT IT'S FOR SURE A FACTORY SUPERSPORT WITH THE "4P" DESIGNATED COWLTAG, ORIGINALLY A MARINA BLUE CAR WITH A BLACK VINYLTOP, BLACK STANDARD INTERIOR, PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH ON THESE CARS, CAMARO RESEARCH GROUP/CRG HAS A BUNCH OF GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT THESE CARS, IT NOW HAS A NON ORIGINAL DYNO TESTED 350CI ENGINE WITH A FEW GOODIES AND A MUNCIE 4 SPEED TRANSMISSION, 10 BOLT POSI REAREND W/3:73 GEARS, COWL INDUCTION HOOD, FRONT POWERDISC BRAKES, ALTHOUGH THIS CAR HASN'T BEEN DRIVEN MUCH IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IT RUNS AND DRIVES FINE, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO GIVE IT A GOOD ONCE OVER BEFORE DRIVING ON A DAILY BASIS, TENNESSEE CAR IT'S ENTIRE LIFE WITH VERY LITTLE RUST, NICE/SOLID FLOORS, TRUNK AND REAR SHOCK TOWERS, HAS HAD SOME FILLER WORK/POSSIBLY A PATCH PANEL BEHIND THE PASSENGER SIDE REAR TIRE DONE YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS PAINTED, ALL GLASS IS GOOD, ORIGINAL INTERIOR, OLD SCHOOL PAINT JOB DONE OVER 20 YEARS AGO, OVERALL A GREAT FATHER/SON/DAUGHTER PROJECT TO TINKER WITH AND DRIVE AS IS? RESTORE? NHRA STOCK/SUPERSTOCK RACECAR? STREETCAR? MANY POSSIBILITIES WITH THIS ONE, MUST SEE TO APPRECIATE, SERIOUS INQUIRES ONLY, BIDDERS WITH ZERO/NEGATIVE/LESS THAN 10 FEEDBACK MUST CONTACT ME BEFORE BIDDING OR I WILL CANCEL YOUR BID/BIDS, SOLD IN AS IS CONDITION, PLEASE ONLY BID TO WIN IF YOU CAN PAY FOR THIS CAR, BANK WIRE TRANSFER OR CASH PREFERRED FOR PAYMENT AS IT IS THE QUICKEST AND SAFEST METHOD OF PAYMENT FOR BOTH THE BUYER AND THE SELLER, IF WE DO NOT HEAR FROM THE WINNING BIDDER BY PHONE WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER THE AUCTION ENDS WE ASSUME YOU ARE NON PAYING BIDDER AND THE CAR WILL GO ELSEWHERE, POSSIBLE DELIVERY DEPENDING ON YOUR LOCATION, THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING AND GOOD LUCK BIDDING!!! THIS CAR WILL BE SOLD WITH THE WHEELS AND TIRES PICTURED ON THE TRAILER, ULTRA RARE CAR AS THE L30-M20 CARS ONLY ACCOUNTED FOR 3% OF THE 220,906 CARS BUILT IN 1967. SEE CHART BELOW.
How many L30/M20s were built? While Chevrolet recorded how many of each individual option was built (for details on option production quantities, see the link to the CRG option spreadsheet), there is no traceable record of how many option combinations like the L30/M20 were sold. However, a source has provided CRG some as-yet untraceable information, supposedly from a GM production survey, that indicates that a total of 12,155 L30/M20s were built.13 To supplement the above as-yet untraceable production number, we can make an educated guess of production numbers, based on V8 engine and transmission usage, from the single option production data that is repeated in the table below. While the estimate could be approached from several different ways, the calculation below is made in the following manner: 1) Determine the percentage of L30 engines relative to total V8s engine. 2) Determine the number of M20 transmissions used in V8s (total number of M20s minus an estimate for limited number of M20 transmissions used on L6 cars - 2.7% of M20s, based on a sampling of data available to CRG). 3) Multiply the percentage of L30s by the number of V8 M20s and the result is a rough estimate of the number of L30s mounted to M20 transmissions. This two-year estimate of 11,029 is close to the unconfirmed GM production number of 12,155 L30/M20s. Depending on which number is used, L30/M20s comprised only 2.4 to 2.7% of all Camaros built in these years. Production quantities this low put the L30/M20 on a par, quantity-wise, with models like the 1967-69 SS with the L78 396ci-375HP engine (9464 built) or the 1968-69 SS with the L34 396ci-350HP engine (4597 built), and significantly more rare than other very desirable production models like the SS-350 or the 1968-69 Z28. Given the relative lack of respect that this poorly appreciated option combination has enjoyed, these forty years later it is likely that surviving original L30/M20s are counted in the hundreds rather than the thousands.14 Estimating 1967-68 L30/M20 Camaro Production | 1967 | 1968 | Both Years | | Total Vehicles: | 220,906 | 235,147 | 456,053 | | V8 Engines: | | L48 (350ci-295HP) | 29,270 | 12,496 | 41,766 | L30 (327ci-275HP)
% of V8s | 25,287
15.71% | 21,686
11.77% | 46,973
13.55% | | L35 (396ci-325HP) | 4,003 | 10,773 | 14,776 | | L34 (396ci-350HP) | --- | 2,579 | 2579 | | L78 (396ci-375HP) | M20 NA | 4,575 | 5713 | | Z28 (302ci-290HP) | M20 NA | 7,199 | 7,801 | | base 327 (327ci-210HP) | 102,409 | 124,870 | 227,279 | | V8 Engines Applicable to M20: | 160,969 | 184,178 | 346,587 | | Transmissions: | | M20 (4-speed manual) | 45,806 | 35,161 | 80,967 | | Std 3-speed manual | 48,506 | 51,093 | 99,599 | | MB1 (2-speed semi-automatic) | --- | 3,099 | 3,099 | | M13 (special 3-speed manual) | 681 | 752 | 1,433 | | M21 (4-speed manual) | 1,733 | 11,134 | 12,867 | | M22 (4-speed manual) | --- | 1,277 | 1,277 | | M35 (PowerGlide automatic) | 122,727 | 127,165 | 249,892 | | M40 (TurboHydraMatic automatic) | 1,453 | 5,466 | 6,919 | | Estimate of V8 M20s (97.3%) | 44,569 | 34,211 | 78,780 | L30/M20 Estimate
Totals
% of All Camaros |
7,002?
3.2%? |
4,027?
1.7%? |
11,029?
2.4%? |
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